In regards to the much-talked-about rape scene in Sunday's episode

team-science:

I’m going to play devil’s advocate and say that, from a storytelling perspective, I didn’t dislike its existence. However, and this is a big however, it is important to note what I am okay and not okay with in regards to this discussion going on about it, and I’m going to discuss this, because it…

Preach!

I’m kinda done with this fandom…

Are people really saying that a man is incapable of rape, because he knows that rape is wrong and has been against it in the past?

Are people seriously upset that a “consensual” sex scene between a 13-year-old girl and full grown ass man, was changed into what it would have realistically been for the TV show?

Are people seriously upset that a “consensual” sex scene that was written from the point of view from a sexually frustrated man, was changed into what it realistically was for the television show?

In that case, abuse victims would never become abusers, pedophilia is definitely ok as long as the minor says its cool, and it’s not rape if you keep going until she eventually says yes.

Come the fuck on y’all…

What Sexual Violence Looks Like

forgirlsraisedbywolves:

I realize what I’m opening myself up to here, but I think it’s important.

I was blown away by the rape scene on tonight’s Game of Thrones. I turned to my husband and said, “That doesn’t happen in the books. Jaime would never rape Cersei. She is 100% on board with the altar sex.”

But then I…

THANK YOU!!!!

arbor-golddigger:

I don’t understand how book readers are saying this scene was 100% consensual or loving in the books, because it really wasn’t.
Things that point to the scene being rape:
Cersei refuses Jaime initially.
He ignores her and kisses her so she can’t really speak.
She is physically resisting him.
He never heard her.
I repeat: He never heard her. Cersei is protesting verbally, giving Jaime reasons why she does not want to have sex with him at that time in that place and He never heard her.
Does that sound like enthusiastic consent to y’all, cause it sure as hell doesn’t to me.
Not to mention this scene feeds into the whole “Ignore her if she says no because she’ll be totally into it once you slip her the D” bullshit, which, imo at least, is actually sending a more fucked up message than the message sent by depicting the scene as pretty unambiguous rape—at least from the viewer’s perspective.  I’d seriously doubt that Jaime considered it “real” rape, just like many people IRL don’t consider it rape if it’s with someone they’ve previously had consensual sex with.  Not saying it’s right, just saying I don’t think Jaime meant to hurt Cersei, but he did, because their relationship is ultimately destructive and unhealthy and I really don’t know how book readers or show watchers could read it as anything but.

After reading, and re-reading the book passage again…this is EXACTLY how I feel things went down. Both the show AND the book were fucked up, and now I honestly don’t think they were that far off from each other. Also, being as though the book was written from his POV, of course his viewpoint is not going to be ‘Rapeity!Rape” because that’s not how he saw it…still doesn’t mean that’s not what it was…
Dear God, why can’t I just be a normal person and stan for the Starks? Lannisters are way too complicated and hurt too damn much tbh, it’s exhausting.

arbor-golddigger:

I don’t understand how book readers are saying this scene was 100% consensual or loving in the books, because it really wasn’t.

Things that point to the scene being rape:

Cersei refuses Jaime initially.

He ignores her and kisses her so she can’t really speak.

She is physically resisting him.

He never heard her.

I repeat: He never heard her. Cersei is protesting verbally, giving Jaime reasons why she does not want to have sex with him at that time in that place and He never heard her.

Does that sound like enthusiastic consent to y’all, cause it sure as hell doesn’t to me.

Not to mention this scene feeds into the whole “Ignore her if she says no because she’ll be totally into it once you slip her the D” bullshit, which, imo at least, is actually sending a more fucked up message than the message sent by depicting the scene as pretty unambiguous rape—at least from the viewer’s perspective. I’d seriously doubt that Jaime considered it “real” rape, just like many people IRL don’t consider it rape if it’s with someone they’ve previously had consensual sex with. Not saying it’s right, just saying I don’t think Jaime meant to hurt Cersei, but he did, because their relationship is ultimately destructive and unhealthy and I really don’t know how book readers or show watchers could read it as anything but.

After reading, and re-reading the book passage again…this is EXACTLY how I feel things went down. Both the show AND the book were fucked up, and now I honestly don’t think they were that far off from each other. Also, being as though the book was written from his POV, of course his viewpoint is not going to be ‘Rapeity!Rape” because that’s not how he saw it…still doesn’t mean that’s not what it was…

Dear God, why can’t I just be a normal person and stan for the Starks? Lannisters are way too complicated and hurt too damn much tbh, it’s exhausting.

Jaime Lannister: Father of the Year part 2

Jaime actually addressing/acknowledging/giving a shit about one of his children on screen should be the top priority on my weekly Lannister Rant Post…but after what transpired in the scene directly after this, I can’t even be happy right now :/

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Game of Thrones checklist

consultingcriminal1994:

Incest-fine.
Murder-fine
Child brides-fine
Cannibalism-fine
Desecration of bodies-fine
Kidnapping-fine
Robbery-fine
Castration and torture-fine
Beheadings-fine
Murdering children-fine
Marital rape-fine
Regular Rape-wooooaaahhhh man

My point is, a bunch of nasty shit has gone down,…

Exactly…then again, most of the people ranting are in love with the idea of Jaime’s wonderful, special, “redeeming story arc”…rme…people need to stop ugh…

Sucks (heavily) that this was way changed from the books, yes…but not that it happened…everyone is terrible on this show / in this universe. That’s the fucking point, let’s be real people…

Am I the only one more freaked out about Ygritte killing random mufuckas and probably eating them later with her creepu homeboy? Cuz THAT shit is cray…

Gonna make a recap post in a minute, but…

Seriously can’t tell if people are mad about the AlterSexRape scene because they are genuinely upset that it was so drastically (and unnecessarily) changed from the books, or…because now perfect Jaime Lannister done gone and done something bad to “that bitch he calls a sister, who probably deserved it anyways”.

I’m seriously willing to bet money it’s the latter, and that fuckin’ sickens me…

Finn Jones (of Game of Thrones) on which female celebrity he’d like to come on the show.

Loras Tyrell everyone. He woke up lyke dis…FLAWLESS!

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What is happening and where can I find the actual video?

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sirenstrike:

How this conversation really went in my head.

I often imagine they have odd fights about who has the most majestic hair. 

The fuckin’ best!

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